30 Replies to “I have come to detest Bernie Sanders.”

  1. This seems like a valid point. I didn’t read the article, but the headline sure describes my Mom. She’s ‘blue’, through and through issue-wise, except she would way rather see white folks doing all the good works, and everyone else thanking them for it. Or at least it seems that way.

  3. To be fair Kent, you probably never liked Sanders from the beginning. Also, there’s a saying in Swahili, “Kila mwamba ngoma huvuta kwake. (A drum maker stretches the skin to his own side). And so in describing some Democrats as not being progressive enough, Sanders is only explaining a complex world through his own eyes.

  6. Helen Ikua Actually, in the very early days of 2016, when it looked like it was going to be another Bush against another Clinton, I favored Sanders over Clinton. My dislike of him is something that grew slowly over time. Now I see him as an grasping self-serving populist demagogue. Whatever credit he may have had has been burned out by his blind ambition. You know the old saying: “Once you can fake integrity, you’ve got it made.”

  7. Kent Crispin And I have a feeling that Bernie is thinking of running again, seeing as how the lesson that he took from this midterms is that there’s a clear path for an authentic progressive (like himself) to take the White House in 2020. šŸ˜

  8. Kent Crispin He fooled me too. Bernie only cares about Bernie. He bashes the DNC for being corporatist, then he uses their money. But the race issue is what really strikes a nerve with me. If he is going to pretend that race is not playing a role with these elections he is doingbrhe same thing Democrats in the past have. So what makes him so different?

  9. Helen Ikua I can’t think of “authentic” and “Bernie Sanders” at the same time. At one time he may have been authentic, but standing in front of adoring crowds left him struck by his own stardom, and now everything he does is a show in service of his ambition.

    During the 2016 election I was serious about my due diligence — Bernie was a real possible choice for me. Ultimately I favored Clinton because she was the best person for the job — Bernie wasn’t even close. But I took him seriously. At some point during the campaign he lost himself, and became a victim of his own sense of entitlement.

    Jay Re: “What makes him so different?” Sanders is a committed believer in economic determinism — for him, all social injustices are ultimately the result of economic forces. He gives lip-service concern about racism, but he doesn’t really get it.The democratic position, chaotic though it is, has for some time now at least partially agreed that racism is a problem on its own.

  11. Kent Crispin Personally I thought then and I think now that people tend to take too many things about Bernie Sanders at face value. Certainly he’s never been subjected to the same scrutiny as Hillary. Even the same crowd that throws hissy fits at the mere suggestion of Hillary running again, seems to accept Bernie’s impending second attempt at the White House without so much as raised eyebrows.

  13. I GET PISSED WHEN HE TALKS DOWN TO ME AT 80 YRS OF ACTIVISM INTERUPTED BY POT TIME IN A FEW CANS,BUT I CAN DIE HAPPY KNOWING ONLY 2 STATES ARE REJECTING A GREAT HELTH BENIFIT ESPECIALLY WITH EPILEPSY IN CHILDREN.WAIT TILL THEY GET HIT WITH SOME HEALTH PROBLEMS WHERE ONLY CANNABIS AND DERIVATIVES CAN HELP A LOT,

  14. IM IGNORING THIS OLD POLITICAL VETERAN B C HE GOT PRACTICALLY NOTHING PASSED IN ALL HIS LIFE SUCKING OFF MY TAX DOLLARS AND CONTINUES TO SAY THE SAME OLD SHIT WITH THE SAME OLD RESULTS,HE MUST BE PISSED WHEN 100 WOMEN GOT ELECTED,HES A MYSOGINIST, HE WENT AFTER HRC FROM HER BACK .BACKSTABING POPE VISIT MADE ME SICK

  16. Helen Ikua Doug Senko .Good day to you both.I just turned 80 nov 7.im stll a vet expat in asia since 90,but vote and have been an activist since i left ( drafted service ) in 58 when we couldnot vote till 21,that pissed me off and probably the major reason i became VERY political also in service could have a beer ,but not in usa,and was driven to pot as my own social lubricant and some other things that involved age.

    After having said all that crap i say i would not want to run for office knowing the possibility of memory loss and also generational gap would make me a liability,just as i saw hrc have a hard time moving left even a little untill it was to late.yes i voted for her,and yes she won not by 3 million votes but 6 million if you count the idealists wasted votes agains the nazi juggernaut.

    Im ver happy about arizona and possibly florida and a few other states chewing off trumps senate gains,im llmao at that.

    No more of that bush scotus SELECTION not election in floridas “HANGING SHADS AND UNCOUNTED VOTES BC OF SOS IN FLORIDA STOPPING ALL RECOUNTS,NOW IT SEEMS THE SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT.

    THATS ALL IVE GOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT! IM ALWAYS REMINDED OF SNL GILDA RADNER AND FORREST GUMP.” NEVER MIND” AND ” LIFES A BOX OF CHOCOLATES”

    Take care kids and FUCK TRUMP LOL

  17. YOU HAVE ISSUES ABOUT ASKING WHY IM IN CAPS BRETT.I COULD EXPLAIN BUT I WILL LEAVE IT AT THIS,IM 80,VET EXPAT SINCE 90.WITH SAM A TABLET ON 2ND SLOWEST NET IN WORLD,EYES GOING AND DONT HAVE VOICE EXCEPT GOOD FREE SKYPE,SO KID,GO AND POST SOMETHING MEANINGFUL OK BRAT? Just took A MINUTE TO SEE YOUR PROFILE,SO YOUR A KIWI ONE OF THOSE CHRISTCHURCH MAGGOTS WHO WERE COMPLICIT IT BLOWING UP AND KILLING A AMERICAN GEEN PEACE BOAT CREW MEMBER .stick my old GI BOOT UP YOUR CHICKEN ASS.LETS SEE WHERE IS THAT OLD BOOT OF MINE,GALLIPOLI PERHAPS,Dont fuck with this old yank,i live close to you,so watch your TYPING!! SMH AT GRAMMER NAZIS FROM A DOWN UNDER.YOU WOULD BE SPEAKING JAPANESE IF NOT FOR THE USA.

  18. Ted Shaw USE A LARGER FONT SIZE. BECAUSE CAPS ON THE INTERNET LOOKS LIKE YOU’RE YELLING (sorry about the visual issues), BUT AT 80 MAYBE WE HAVE TO YELL =).

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    VETS THAT WERE DRAFTED ARE HEROS IN MY BOOK BTW,

    DRAFT without the was wrong…

    <3 Fuck Trumps America

    I’m in the North Island and it was the french government that blew up that greenpeace (*member in them days) boat.

    Bernie would have made america better imho.

    Thanks for kicking naughty Japan, NUKING them wasn’t needed but was a political symbol of intent. Japan is pretty cool now the empire has democracy.

  19. IVE DONE LOBBYING FOR GREAT CAUSES WORld WIDE.HAVE DONE TIME DURING NIXONS WAR,SERVED A YEAR BY REQUEST 67 IN NAM AS CORPMAN NAVY ( MEDIC TO MARINES)

    YES I KNOW THE WHOLE ROTTEN FRENCH STORY BUT NZ WAS COMPLICIT IN COURT PROCEDINGS. MY MAN.THERE ARE FEW THINGS I DONT REMEMBER.3 YRS AT SEA FROM 55 TO 58 PHIB PACIFIC 7TH FLEET AND HELPED OPEN UP THE SUEZ CANAL FROM EGYPT WHILE ISREALS BOMBED MY SISTER SHIP KILLING MANY,THE LIBERTY,LOOK IT UP ON U TUBE,FUCK ISREAL MY BEST BUDDIES HERE ON S CHINA SEA ARE AUSSIES,MY PARTNER IN SCUBA AND RESORT WAS AUSSIE,WHY THEY DONT SPEAK WELL OF N Z KIWIS? JUST ASKING.

    EXCUSE ME BUT YOU JUST GOT ON MY BAD SIDE WITH CRITICS APPROCH WITH NOTHING CONCERNJNG POSThttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ifgrhC1wsRpIny21yb5DpyC8yFdZhOv4r8sYw-hiuWti3t4Nh4q7m-U8OAjmonJw1QNoMEPM_Q

  21. NZ vs OZZY relations are a bit like USA vs Canada . There is rivalry but we have more common than we done.

    OZZY has been a bit of a dick recently with putting boat people (refugees) into concentration camps, but that’s mainly a conservative government being Trump like. And Kiwi try not to judge people by their leadership.

  22. Brett Cooper Sorry i flew of the handle Brett, apologize. Its just that ive not long left,my wife must workma great job in states and this yr not sure i will last to see and say goodbye, So i am on a knifes edge also about our HITLER BUT from this midterm elections great control has returned to reasonable Americans mostly in the for of the young and women.For the first time since Hitler took over ALL depts of goverment that we now have him by the balls and at this momment he is in hiding in france giving Macron hell on of all days,ww1 ARMISTICE day.,but EUROPE is formjng a reply.

    I wish he would become a victim of some debilitating accident but in EUROPE NOT IN USA,IM GOING TO HAVE A SALAD NOW,IM A CANCER SURVIOR OF SORTS FOR PAST 9 YRS,ITS THERE BUT DORMANT, ANYWAY im old just would like to hold my friend and wife of 35 yrs.

    Chk ya laterhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BEs2AynB_7n39Zab37XE5xTA0lJUvsy4jKqyrTG6_MuPZIEvtt04twOMnWtGg5LHkOncyzWmcQ

  25. Helen Ikua YOU MUST BE THICK,,MEANING WHAT? NEVER HAPPEN ,ID LOVE IT TO BUT AT THIS TIME ITSCA DREAM,TO MANY OTHER PRESSING ISSUES ON THE TABLE.WE ARE AT A REAL CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS AND STAND A GOOD CHANCE OG DIGGING THE CANCER OUT BUT THE HEALING AHEAD IS AWESOME, IM 80,VET EXPAT ON S CHINA SEA JUST WAITINGNTO BE PUT IN AN URN AND TAKEN BACK TO MY COUNTRY AND SCATTERED .RIGHT WILL WIN, IVE SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE FIGHTING ENEMIES LIKE TRUMPS NAZIS ABROAD AND IN AMERICA AND GOT THE BRUISES TO PROVE IT,

    IM JUST BEING REALISTIC,HERES MY CARD FOR A INSIDE TRY B4 YOU WERE BORN,I LOBBYED FOR AIM, NOW AND NORML BEFORE ANY WERE POPULAR AND NEVER MADE A DIME,OK?https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aFmLlSUrRvGiBxjQain6V7zOsLYY8gmFHs0ATPPtTLRY8jcZeIyUFd9L6qmHRahYtrF4zgEm-w

  28. Ted Shaw Mr Shaw, I do so try to avoid tangling with silly people if it’s at all possible. And the reason why I asked you, “Meaning what?” was not because I found your impertinent and extraneous quip ,”DEAR HELEN DREAMER.NO WAY IN HELL,” (sic) to be a quip that’s too intellectually profound to decipher, but only because I did not want to go for your jugular before giving you a chance to establish a clear link between your insensate ramblings and the headline, “I have come to detest Bernie Sanders,” under which this post was reshared. And while I congratulate you for your long track record in the lobbying industry, I would hate for you to labour under any assumptions that I am similarly interested in lobbying for any political groups or even in ever running for political office. I assure you that my interest in politics and its analysis thereof, remains as it has always been, purely cerebral. And your age is no excuse to ramble Mr Shaw, indeed I have found Kent Crispin who reshared this post to which I was responding and who is 70 years old, to be concise, lucid, witty, and cordial.

  29. Helen Ikua I hope that grouchy old man syndrome doesn’t get me when I’m 80, should I live that long šŸ™‚ Good to see you popping up on other social media sites, by the way — you are a friend I don’t want to lose as G+ goes under.

  30. Kent Crispin Oh, I have a feeling you’ll be an agreeable 80 year old Kent, and shall remain a joy to your family and those who know you for a while to come. And in spite of our obvious difference in age and race, I’ve come to count you as one my homies. šŸ˜€

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